Showing posts with label Kentucky History. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kentucky History. Show all posts

Thursday, March 27, 2014

March 27, 2014 Update, Sept. Kentucky Conference Coming Up and OW! My FACE!

Well after the Jenny Wiley saga of posts it has been a whirlwind first part of Spring. So sorry to be so lax on this blog. Much is happening at my house. First we are still waiting for SPRING! It shows up in a couple of warm days and then SNOWS again.


I wanted to share this post I found on the Jenny Wiley thread at Rootsweb.  It is a conference this coming September 2014. I would love to go but I doubt if I will get to. Three days? Sigh....I'd be the one babbling in the corner too tired to communicate.

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:59:23 +0000


Dear Jenny Wiley listserv:

I would encourage everyone interested in Jenny Wiley to attend this year's Eastern Kentucky Genealogy and History Conference, which is going to be held in Louisa, Kentucky from Friday, September 19 - Sunday, September 21, 2014. There is going to be a special presentation on the historic Jenny Wiley and many people in attendance descend from her and know a great deal about DNA research. I will be doing the presentation, along with others, and we hope to have a lively conversation surrounding the life of Jenny Wiley, as well as how to interpret your DNA findings. For more information on the conference, please contact my cousin, Victoria Moore, vice-president of the Lawrence County, Kentucky Genealogical and Historical Society atbhictoria.ni.omordha@gmail.com. The conference is going to be held at the Community Center and meals will be catered. The entire event is very affordable and well-worth the travel, if you must come from very far. Many Jenny Wiley (and Hezekiah Sellards!
) descendants attend.

On another note, if you care to support the republication of the classic "Appalachian Crossroads" (the Hezekiah Sellards genealogy, which has been out of print for 30 years)and the efforts of the Lawrence County, Kentucky Genealogical and Historical Society (LCKG&HS) to keep our Eastern Kentucky history and heritage alive, please visit this Go Fund Me campaign page: http://www.gofundme.com/7t8byg . There is more information on what the LCKG&HS is doing and services they are providing.

Many thanks,
Melinda

Melinda Moore, Ph.D.
Clinical Psychology Postdoctoral Fellow
Military Suicide Bereavement Study
College of Social Work
The University of Kentucky
Lexington, Kentucky 40506

I hope those that attend can update me on any new info. I am really curious as to where the Jenny Wiley research will go. So far no luck on the deposition. Any one finds that PLEASE share with me!!

Interpreting History

Will the Real Jenny Wiley Please Tell her Story?

Where was the Cabin of Thomas and Jenny Wiley?

Update on the Battle with CFS continues! 

I am just battling symptoms as usual. I have muscles that hurt that I didn't know could hurt before this disease attacked me. Like facial muscles. Anyone else experience this? Any and every muscle in your body can be affected by this disease. Quite annoying to have twinges of pain just show up!!

You can be talking to someone and all the sudden you contort your face because of a twinge of pain. Oh yes so annoying to be asked, "Are you OK?" because you are making involuntary faces at them in the middle of a conversation! Have to say, "Sorry, twinge of pain in the muscles that control my eyebrows. So sorry to have to twitch them like Groucho Marx at you trying to get it to stop! It will disappear I hope in a bit." I turn away because I know it's annoying to them to watch as much as it is annoying to me to experience. Those twinges feel like charley horses at times. So relieved when it stops.  Oh the joys of CFS/ME when even your face hurts.

 But also I am asking for prayers for my dear son who has been ill. He has been my rock. The one who has taken care of me a lot in my illness. Recently he started losing weight...a lot of weight for no reason and developed very large swollen joints.

He is in the process of being tested for numerous diseases. Between the two of us we have a doctor's appointment calendar that is nuts! So family, friends and my Ed have filled in for him and even helped me take care of him. A reversal of roles for sure.  I dearly love my family and friends!! They are awesome. But I am a bit more tired than usual.  There are many things I would like to do and work on this blog is one of them. I am working on a couple of posts and hope to have them completed SOON.

I am thinking of doing a few posts of links to good research sites I use. Also my family tree on here. Been asked about my people. That is the Appalachian way to ask, "who are your people?"  So stay tuned..

Friday, February 21, 2014

Where was the Cabin of Thomas and Jenny Wiley in Bland County? Mystery Monday Post for Sure!

This post is going to be a long one just with the documents! I was going to set the stage with a lot of historical background. But I instead will just mention as I go along a few items that affected land grants.

Folks, please forgive any errors. This little foray into Jenny Wiley has sapped all my energy, taken all my spoons and will take me a great while to recover from. Seriously I'm not going into great detail of the actual background history but will post a short bibliography for those that should pursue more information to understand how your ancestor could be on the frontier in central Appalachia in the 1750's and yet not get a land grant until the 1780's and beyond. If I get my strength back and my mind will work, I will try to do a couple of more in-depth posts about the Loyal Company grants, the impact of war and treaties on the settlers here in our part of Appalachia. But I want to get to what I promised, because I want others to take it and continue on with the research that I can no longer do.

If I don’t do anything else before I leave this old world, I want to inspire others to get the history right about Native Americans in Appalachia, the settlers in Appalachia and the relationships between the two. That to me would be a lasting worthwhile accomplishment.  I hope these posts will inspire others to get out there and accomplish the research of the real Jenny Wiley history.

The capture of Jenny Wiley and many other attacks on the settlers in our area occurred long AFTER the Revolutionary War. England has lost, and the westward expansion goes into high gear.

The lands where Jenny Wiley and my ancestors settled were thought to be under treaty to be ceded by the Indians early on.  The Indians obviously disagreed. In simplest terms, in many cases, someone forgot to inquire of the true Indians that held claim to these lands to give them up or they did and they said, "NO".

In the middle of that fight you have settlers Thomas and Jenny Wiley and the Indians who attacked them. Both protecting what they considered was their right to protect.

Before the Indian Wars in the 1750's, men such as Thomas Walker, who is the namesake of Walkers Mountain, (Big and Little) Walker's Creek and the Walker's Creek Settlement, had petitioned the colonial government for land. Thomas Walker's Loyal Company was issued a grant for 800,000 acres that spread from West Virginia to North Carolina.

It's real fuzzy the boundaries of these land company claims because no one had actually surveyed the entire lot. There was a certain process you had to go through to get the land grants. A survey had to be taken, (which means you had to hire a surveyor license by the courts), it had to be recorded, you had to pay money, live on the lands and develop them and ...then you could get a grant issued at the county or state level. The whole process for the Loyal Company was interrupted by the Indian Wars, the Proclamation of 1763 (which threatened to make the Loyal Company Grants null and void), and the Revolutionary War.  Another problem occurred because there were other competing land company speculators that claimed the same acreage. Add treasury warrants for military service and it's a wonder we didn't have a second war on the frontier after the Revolutionary War.  Later these claims after the Revolutionary War would be held up in court of appeals and land commission cases FOR YEARS to settle ownership.

That is why many of our earliest land grant deeds will mention these cases. It shows how it is hard to determine just how long a European settler would have been here on the frontier using just land records. Some folks such as Henry Harman had his surveys recorded in 1754, but waited 45 years to get his grants in 1789.

Others settlers living on the lands before the Revolutionary War, didn't get even a survey accomplished until the 1780's. Many had actually moved on and had sold or assigned their rights to someone else before getting their own original claim recognized which left the assignees having to prove they had purchased the original claim in courts.

In this time period in Appalachia, you can't go just by the deeds or grants to determine when someone arrived in a specific area on the frontier or where they lived at while waiting for courts to determine land ownership. You have to dig for other primary documents to tell their story.

That is the case in looking for where the cabin of Thomas and Jenny Wiley was located.

As I posted in an earlier post, I was trying to create a map for a museum display to mark the route Jenny Wiley took from Bland County, Virginia to where she was held captive in Kentucky. All I found were conflicting accounts in the written sources everyone referred to that claimed to be the actual, factual accounts of Jenny Wiley.

David E. Johnston's wrote in his History of the Middle New River Settlements that he interviewed William Stowers who claimed that the Thomas Wiley cabin was on the old Dill's Place on Clear Fork Creek. You can find his very embellished text version here on pages 98, 105, 107 and 148. Text Version History of Middle New River Settlements by David E. Johnston 1906
It's an amusing account but just like Connelly's version not researched much in primary documents. (and really? Indians adapted the leather hunting shirts from the Europeans? He has that backwards!)

William Easley Connelly's version in the, "History of Kentucky, The Founding of Harman's Station", has been over the years considered the gold standard for telling the story of Jenny Wiley. Because he states he relied on interviews with Jenny Wiley's son, Adam Wiley. His goes into great elaborate detail of a trip from a cabin supposedly near Mathias and Henry Harman on Walker's Creek.

(Is it just me or were Connelly's footnotes in this story an entire book to itself?)

His version though is very embellished. I also have a problem that he prints his version long after Adam Wiley is dead. Adam Wiley would not be able to refute anything he wrote. He gets confused the Mathias Harmans. There were 3. Mathias Harman, Henry Harman's brother, Mathias Harman, Henry Harman's son, and Mathias Harman, Daniel Harman's son. That family repeated names a bunch!

When I began 2 or 3 years ago I started trying to verify his claims by looking first for the land sale Connelly mentioned of Mathias or Henry Harman's to Thomas Wiley. I collected copies of every Harman grant and found NOTHING. No boundaries that mention Thomas Wiley as even being a neighbor... NOTHING.

I found the Mathias that built the block house at Harman's Station was Mathias Harman, Henry Harman's brother, and his land grants were with his other brother Daniel Harman on the Clinch River...no where near Walker's Creek. Henry Harman does assign his son Mathias, a land grant on Walker's Creek and it's recorded after 1790 in Wythe County but this Mathias doesn't sell Thomas Wiley land.

Even the Harman story of the hunting camp incident in Connelley's version, the reason the Indians are attacking the Wiley cabin by mistake. is hard to place in the Jenny Wiley saga. Henry Harman and his son's are attacked at a hunting camp in which Henry is wounded. They also killed a chief's son. The story is they are going to race back to the Walker's Creek Settlement because they know these Indians are going to want retribution.

The problem is not that the incident didn't occur it's tying it to the Jenny Wiley story. One version has it occurred in November 1784. If that is the case it is five years before the event. Another that it occurred in November 1788, then it took them a year to get back. If it occurred in November 1789, then they were a month too late but all versions agree it happened in November. Makes me question if whether this part of the story, though it may be a true event, was just added to embellish the story to make it a more exciting captivity narrative.

But even the story of Henry Harman deserves much further research. It is said the chief, whom Henry had killed his son, were once serving together against a common foe. The story even says they were once friends. The Native Americans knew Henry Harman, they called him Skuguska. A whole area of research could be opened up just on this man and his times to see, if the story is true, how allies became enemies.

What I did find was a deed to Thomas Wiley for 110 acres of land on Clear Fork Creek issued in 1795.  Thomas was an assignee of Robert Smith and in the grant it mentions that it was an "adjustment to lands in Washington and Montgomery counties", telling me this was settled in a court case. The grant doesn't prove exactly WHEN Thomas and Jenny moved to Clear Fork Creek.....yet. A search, which I did not get to accomplished, for land commissioners records (if they still exist) for this case might produce the actual date. But other records show they were on Clear Fork prior to 1795 and I believe prior to the attack on their cabin.

Robert Smith's original survey was for 300 acres and dated March 5, 1784 and at the bottom of that page it gives the assignment for Thomas Wiley for 110 acres and the survey for 110 acres.
Montgomery Co. Va Record of Plots Book D Part 1 1-286 

It is funny how you jump around in research. After finding all this suspect history in the written accounts, beginning with J. D. Smith's letter to Governor Randolph giving the timeline for Jenny Wiley's captivity as being much less than Connelly or any of the other writers claimed, I started looking for Jenny Wiley's actual deposition. Connelly mentions it and says he relies heavily on it. Jasper Newton Harman mentions it in his Harman Genealogy, even J.D. Smith mentions her deposition in the letter to the Governor which to me makes it official there was a depostion.

I haven't found the deposition but a search is ongoing for it. Wouldn't it be great to have Jenny Wiley be able to tell us in her own words through the actual deposition? Which begs the question, why has no one found this deposition or affidavit? If we find Jenny's affidavit it might clear up the whole question of where the cabin was or where she was when captured! She may have been on Walker's Creek when she was captured for some weird reason, despite the primary documents saying her cabin was on Clear Fork Creek. LET'S PROVE IT!

In that search, I ordered rolls and rolls of microfilm from the Library of Virginia. I was going through Court Order books, specifically Montgomery County Court order books for the 1790s, since that is where J. D. Smith says the deposition was taken. I didn't find any reference to Jenny Wiley. What has been found were very curious court order entries.  Two pages of note, with the first page dated August 4th, 1789, 3 months before the attack on the Wiley cabin. The second page is for the repair and maintenance for a road to the Cove Road up Wolf Creek to Clear Fork Creek.

The way roads were built and maintained at that time period, were by those who were living near or on the road. Settlers would be ordered by the county court to do their part in working on the roads. A surveyor, usually a landowner on the road, would be appointed to make sure to get all the neighbors ordered by the court together, to repair, maintain or build the road. They would also report to the court if someone wasn't pulling their weight or causing problems like putting up an illegal toll.  For more information on the early roads and excellent resource the early lands and roads are the series books, "The Early Adventurers on the Western Waters" Volumes by Mary and F.B. Kegley  Information specifically for roads is in Vol. 1 pages 178-180.

These orders appear to be for a road from Captain Pearis's on New River up Wolf Creek, to the Cove Road on Clear Fork creek. They include Thomas Wiley as working on the road at Clear Fork Creek. Page 71 orders Matthew French as Surveyor and he is to be over the road from Captain Pearis's,  (family the town of Pearisburg is named for), to ten miles up Wolf Creek. Then Charles Hayes Sr. is to be surveyor from Matthew French's up Clear Fork Creek.  Here are the actual scans of the orders.
Montgomery County Virginia Order Book No. 4 1788-1790 Page 70 with the date for page 71
Montgomery County Virginia Order Book No. 4 1788-1790 Page 71

Bottom of Page 71 listing Thomas Wiley and Samuel Sellards with Absalom Stafford.
Montgomery County Virginia Order Book No. 4 1788-1790 Page 71

Matthew French's appointed surveyor for the first group, his lands were on Wolf Creek. Charles Hayes, Sr who was appointed surveyor for the second group, his lands were at the confluence of Clear Fork, Laurel Creek and Wolf Creek at what is called today Rocky Gap.  This county road order in August, 1789 is following what is today Route 61 along Wolf Creek through Giles and Bland County, Virginia to Clear Fork Creek  not Walker's Creek.

In a search for the names in the bottom half of page 71 all of these men had either lands or were related to those who owned lands on Wolf Creek going into Rocky Gap and up Clear Fork Creek to the Cove Road. For example Joseph Baker married Sukie Hayes the daughter of Charles Hayes Sr.  etc. I could list them all but I'm not, I'm tired. The most important one to me is Absalom Stafford.

I found these references in the "Early Adventurers on the Western Waters" Volume II by Mary B. Kegley

Page 49- Commissioners Certificates Book at Montgomery County courthouse on page 86 of that book under the date September 7, 1781 - " Absalom Stafford - Commissioners Certificate 150 Acres on Clear Fork of Wolf Creek bounded by a conditional line made by Thomas Wiley and Thos. Smith."

Page 108 -  In a book at the Virginia State Library Archives entitled " Record of Certificates of Commissioners of Washington and Montgomery Counties 1767 - 1788.  Pg 82 of that book "Absalom Stafford - 150 acres on Clear Fork Creek, bounded by conditional lines made by Thomas Wily & Thomas Smith, settled 1777."

For a really good explanation of these land commissions that were set up to settled land disputes this Vol II EAWW on pages 98-101 is the best!  But it still took Thomas until 1795 to get this land grant. There were further cases after Absalom Stafford and those would have to be tracked down to understand why his was granted in 1795.

What this does show, is that Thomas Wiley's land boundaries were known to land commissioners in 1781 and he is working with Absalom Stafford and Samuel Sellards, his brother in law on the repair of the road to Clear Fork in August 1779.  Part of the condition of these land grants was you had to be living on the lands you claimed.

There are a few folks that will be upset with these revelations. Someone will have to prove to me why Jenny and Thomas Wiley would be on Walker's Creek when they had their own lands on Clear Fork Creek. I have found no instance of Thomas Wiley working on the Walker's Creek road in those years or any other proof he and Jenny were living on Walker's Creek.

So how was it that Walker's Creek became the site of the cabin? Myself and my man were talking about this and we have a theory. In the Montgomery County Court Order books, the Walker's Creek Settlement is mentioned many times. Henry Harman's place at Walker's Creek is listed quite a few times. Walker's Creek Settlement was the place for trade, roads to the Clinch River were ordered from Henry Harman's place and Henry's house was even where you went to vote. Sort of like the folks who live on Wolf Creek at Grapefield today. There address is Bastian but they don't live in Bastian. Walker's Creek I believe was a district address but not where Thomas and Jenny Wiley were living. The stories of them living on Walker's Creek, I don't know their basis in fact. I welcome any evidence to the contrary that they were living on Clear Fork Creek.

Thomas Wiley's lands would have been near the Cove Road. The Cove Road off of Route 61 still exists in the beginnings are just over the county line in Tazewell County and it crosses back over into Bland County at the top of East River Mountain before crossing over.. It is a gravel road that goes through a gap across two mountains and ends up in Bluefield, Virginia very close to the head waters of the Bluestone River. All the accounts say that Native Americans went after outlying cabins for captives. Walker's Creek Settlement would have been more populated and definitely a better armed settlement. Cove Road would have been easy access in and out quickly, it just makes more sense the Wiley cabin would have been a better target there.

This was the first time I had heard the name Samuel Sellards. There is a chancery Case in Tazewell County of Robert Garrett vs Samuel Sellards concerning a way ward horse.Try this Chancery Case Link. In that case it states that Samuel Sellards is living at his brother in laws John Borders meaning he is a brother to Jenny Sellards Wiley. Which brother was killed in the attack? And WHERE are they BURIED?

John Borders married Jenny Sellards Wiley's sister Catherine. Their lands were on the head waters of Kimberling Creek. There are three forks of Kimberling Creek and the North Fork was placed in Tazewell County, in the division of counties and then became Bland County lands in 1861. In the story he warned Jenny of seeing Indian sign and to come to his cabin. Even the Border's lands were closer to Clear Fork than Walker's Creek.
Sell of John Borders Kimberling Creek Lands to Nehemiah Bonham in Tazewell county, Va
Thanks to John Evans of Kentucky for a copy of this deed. 

Now For Some Mind Blowing Stuff

The location of the cabin is only one reason to open the research up for Jenny Wiley full scale. While searching for deeds I found this land grant in the records. 
It is for 560 acres of Land in Kentucky by survey in 1782, for a Jane Wiley, signed by old Patrick Henry himself.




It included a land survey and on the Kentucky Land database a certificate that states it was once a grant to George Rogers Clark.



John Evan in Kentucky dug up some documents that showed Jenny Sellards Wiley and her sister Catherine Sellards Borders could read and write. They signed their names on several documents. Jenny signed her name "Jane Wiley".  So is this a land grant to our Jenny Wiley before she was attacked? If it were, why would she be getting this land grant? What happened to these lands?





So you see Ladies and Gents....the true story of Jenny Wiley has just begun. I am passing this knowledge on to inspire you to continue where I can not. Jenny Wiley deserves to have her true story told.

Find the real deposition of Jenny Wiley if it exists.

William Connelly Easley's records are scattered across the midwest. I have notes on where. They should be combed for his notes to see if anything exists of his interviews of Adam Wiley.

Discover the Wiley and Sellards family tree in Chancery, court cases, marriage and land records. Where did Jenny and Catherine learn to read and write?

More research on who was the Jane Wiley of the 560 acres Kentucky land grant.

Try to identify the Indians that did this attack and understand the Native American's reason for it.

Take each part of the Jenny Wiley stories and prove or disprove whether it is true or not.

Let me know what you FIND!

One more item. I believe Thomas Stuart Walker's lands that mentions Thomas Wiley's land border, were very close to an old church that the building still exists on 61 called Nebo. That is on the Bland  County side about a 1/2 mile from the Cove Road. Many years ago I researched the Thomas Walker family of Clear Fork (Distant kin to the Thomas Walker of Walker's mountain fame) and located the lands for the family. This Walker family donated lands for the church and here is a deed where his corner is at Thomas Wiley's.


I usually go over this couple of times again.... but folks....I am exhausted. The old ticker is flip flopping and I ache like a toothache. Jenny Wiley needs to be left with those who are in better health. There may be errors just contact me and point them out. I probably won't post again for at least another month or more. It will take me that much time to rest and to recover. Going to take me that much time to clean off the bed and put the books up!!

Books I recommend
"Early Adventurers on the Western Waters" Volumes by Mary B. Kegley and F.B. Kegley, Green Publishers, Inc. Orange, VA

The American Revolution in Indian Country: Crisis and Diversity in Native American communities, by Colin G. Calloway, Cambridge University Press

The Ambiguous Iroquois Empire: The Covenant Chain Confederation of Indian Tribes with English Colonies from its beginnings to the Lancaster Treaty of 1744  By Francis Jennings, W.W. Norton and Company

Stories of Jenny Wiley: Exploring the History and the Legends, by Todd Pack, 2013, Published by Story ATOM Media

Monday, February 17, 2014

Will the Real Jenny Wiley Please Tell Her Story! Mystery Mondays

This post I have worked on for almost a year. When it is published it is a plea to all historical researchers. I don't mean as I am these days...the Internet variety, though if I have missed something please bring it to my attention. I mean researchers who can help go out and dig into old, dusty, dirty, courthouses, from libraries to quaint archives and look for actual factual records. It is finally time to leave no stone unturned to tell the story of Jenny Wiley. I have pulled some very interesting documents that tell a different version of her story. I hope there are others out there that can help me complete it.

The story of Jenny Sellards Wiley is one of great Appalachian lore. She was a pioneer woman who with her husband Thomas Wiley resided in what became Bland County, Virginia, was taken captive by American Indians in 1789 and taken to Kentucky. According to the story, several of her children and her brother were killed at the time. She then lost 2 more children while in captivity before she could escape.

Her story, in the past, has sparked a popularity that has mythical proportions especially in Kentucky where she and her husband moved to after her release. She has been written about in so many ways, from plays to fictional and non fictional books. There are various accounts that try to tell the facts, while others border on the plausible but really embellished.
Cover Letter of Lt. J.D. Smith of Russell County, VA to Gov.
Beverly Randolph, dated July 4th, 1790, that states Jenny's
 captivity was only a few months.

Todd Pack in his book, "The Stories of Jenny Wiley: Exploring the History and the Legends", states there are at least 20 versions of the Jenny Wiley story. In researching the various accounts I found that most accounts rely on oral histories, historical books written from oral histories and stories handed down from generation to generation. I was shocked that not many rely on actual primary documents to tell her story. Elias Howard Sellards, "The Sellards through two Centuries" tried in 1949, but even his version didn't research land documents.

In many instances various works about Jenny Wiley can be categorized in what is known as "captivity narratives".  They embellish the factual story with elements that create a sort of horror, romance narrative, that sounds great and plausible, but very rarely rely on historical research.

I began this search when I was still employed by Wolf Creek Indian Village and Museum. The county's goal was to have a marker placed at the site of the cabin and have the museum create a display about Jenny Wiley and the different people of the frontier, which included the Native Americans in that story.

The problem started for me at the very beginning with reading the various stories and just trying to create a display map of her journey from Bland and the supposed route her captors traveled to take her to Kentucky. Not only were there extremely different embellished accounts of her journey, that didn't agree on the details of her journey at all, the accounts did not agree with where her cabin was located either.
Lt. J. D. Smith July 4th, 1790 letter to Gov. Randolph
Page 1

The accounts also differ in how long she was in captivity. William Easley Connelly's version in his History of Kentucky and the founding of Harman's Station, has her held captive about 11 months. Connelly claims one of his main sources was Adam Wiley, Jenny and Thomas Wiley's son, and it is this claim that gave his version more weight. While other versions has her held captive until 1792. (see the newspaper article photo) Hint: neither of those are true. I've posted J.D. Smith's correspondence to Governor Beverly Randolph dated July 4th, 1790 that states Jenny Wiley was only in captivity a few months.

It transcribes as: His Excellency Beverley Randolph Esq. Governor of Virginia Richmond

Letter from Russell County July 4th 1790

I cannot but think it my duty to trouble your Excellency with the following accounts. Early last Month a party of hostile Indians is said through this narrow County and fell on the House of a certain Capt. Newland in Washington County near this County line, plundered his house and all that was valuable that they could carry away, burned many of his goods that they could not carry and took his wife and three children prisoners, but being quickly pursued and like to be over taken they kill’d and scalped the women & children in this County & made there escape.

Last Spring John Frazier Esq had his son (a little boy) taken prisoner & I am well inform’d, that unfortunate man has since had the rest of his family killed on the Kentucky road.

I doubt not but your Excellency has been inform’d of Mrs Wiley’s oath who was taken prisoner last fall and runaway from the Indian late last winter, I am credibly informed that her deposition was taken in Montgomery County & reports that the Indians informed her they would bring four hundred Indians against Clinch River & Bluestone this summer. There has lately been much of Indians sign recovered on Big Sandy River. We keep out twenty five rangers & four scouts, but as our County is about 150 miles in length that small body is insufficient to guard it. Should our distressed situation incline your Excellency tender feelings to address, men at least be appointed to range on our Frontier until the Fall. I find it exceeding difficult to get men to range, as the whole of this county from it’s narrowness is considered as frontier, a man will choose rather to submit to a fine than have his helpless family exposed to danger while he performs a tour of duty. If such a number of men as your Excellency may Judge necessary for our defense should be order to be raised in Washington with this County covers in it’s whole length, it would be the best & most natural defence that our frontier at this interim can expect, in all probability it would secure us from such frequent and cruel barbarities as this County has lately experienced.

I have resided in this County during the last war, and I’d not think that during the whole war I heard of more cruel or more frequent acts of Cruelty than has been within a year past. Permit me in to instance one act committed last fall on the line dividing this County & Montgomery, on the person of a certain Mr. Whitley who went after miles in the wood hunting his horses when the Indians fell on him, killed him & cut him into small pieces, cut out his guts & strung them on the bushes, cut out his heart & flung it on the ground with such violence that it covered itself in the soil.

The bearer Mr. Fletcher having some business in Before I have prevailed on him to carry this express; I hope your Excellency will be pleased to order him such reward as you may adjudge him for his trouble. I have the Honor to be

Your Excellency obed nt

Hble Servt

J. D. Smith Commanding


In some versions she is led to the blockhouse at Harman's Station by a dream vision of a man that was killed while she was in captivity. In other versions she escaped with a man named Samuel Lusk and followed the river as in Mary Ingles escape in 1755.

In some versions Jenny Wiley is wading and swimming rivers to escape, resettles in Kentucky years after her capture, and is buried there. Other versions have her in a canoe paddling down a river, towards home, then settled and buried in Giles County, Virginia.

The easiest solution would have been to just pick a version, the more popular one I guess, and just build a display around it. I decided that Connelly's version could possibly be relied on since he said he based most of it on the son's account his mother Jenny had told him. Our own Historical Society had used excerpts of Connelly's in their History of Bland County in 1961. This being a county project I thought that would be acceptable, less controversial (at least to those who believed his version) and easy.

Lt. J.D. Smith July 4th 1790 letter to Governor Beverly Randolph
Page 2
But something in me, the researcher in me, said, "Something is not right". When I was trying to develop the map...I know this area...I know most of the old roads. There are maps that exist of the old road system. I also know that the roads and paths we use today were used by Native Americans before us. The version of the trip Connelly gave matched up on a map...but not so much in the real terrain.

So I decided that there needed to be more research and that if I at least searched primary documents for the location of the cabin then they could use that for the documentation for the marker if they asked for it. Little did I realize that just performing that research was going to tell an entirely different story than Connelly's version.  I was performing this work while very ill, but I loved the researching part of my job. I didn't get to do that part often in my job duties. It was my passion and really this research kept me on the job longer than I think I should have stayed.

What I discovered in the primary document research I did get accomplished were most all the versions, especially Connelly's, were very fictionalized, embellished versions of the actual event. Trying to discover just what is true and what is .....well...forgive my reference... plain old BS...is going to take a lot more research.

There are some who fear I am going to make the colonist look bad and that I should realize we can't project our thoughts today with what the people of the frontier did or thought in their time.  I'm not trying to do that. I'm trying to correct the records and identify each person in this story. The settlers and the Indians. We have the advantage today to look back on an event and can pull primary documents to look at the accounts of all sides of the people living through them. Hind sight is 20/20. That is not to judge them but to understand what happened by what was occurring at the time that caused this event. You cannot do that with what I call, hit and run history.
Beckley Post Herald, Beckley, WV Tues. April 17, 1956
Article ties Jenny Wiley to Samuel Lusk to escape in 1792

Two cars collide.  One of the drivers, even though his car is damaged, doesn't stop and drives away. What you have left is the damage of one car but with no understanding as to what happened, how it happened or why it happened. What was going on with the other car that caused this to happen? Telling the story of Jenny Wiley from the perspective of only the settlers is a hit and run history.

There are accounts that say one of the chiefs that attacked Jenny Wiley was the Shawnee Black Wolf, one of the sons of Chief Cornstalk. If this is true, his own family had it's own tragic loss of family members in this war. The Jenny Wiley accounts do not go into the death of Black Wolf's father Chief Cornstalk and his brother, at the hands of the militia under a flag of truce. For more information Click Here or Here

The point being made that both sides committed atrocities and both sides had their own reasons and beliefs for doing so. Both sides believed they had a right to the land and in that conflict it was a war.

There are even those that believe that Jenny Wiley had a Native American child by Black Wolf, when she returned from captivity. I first posted a link explaining their research and beliefs, but the page has since been removed. So here is another link for Chief Cornstalk and his ancestry.  Click Here.  This part of the story in the day of DNA testing would not be hard to prove or disprove. I would love for the descendants of Jenny Wiley and the people on this website to get their DNA tested for their common ancestor.

In the story of Jenny Wiley, the length of her captivity, is going to play a role as to when this would have happened. Very few cite the true amount of time she was held captive.  In reality it was only a few months. In that short time period she had one baby and became pregnant again? If these two groups have a DNA test or begin a Thomas and Jenny Sellards Wiley DNA data bank, that could weed out the truth and also show how they are related.

It is examples such as these that mean each component in the Jenny Wiley story (s) has to be questioned in my mind and proven to get at the real Jenny Wiley story. In Connelly's version of the story Jenny Wiley was pregnant when she was captured. She had the child prematurely. The Indians treated her well during her childbirth and afterwards but then the story says they gave the baby a test by strapping him to a board and placing him in cold water. The child cried and the warriors supposedly killed him and scalped him. She supposedly buried him in the rock shelter she was staying in.

First, whose tribal tradition is that? Secondly, I've read where the rock house location is thought to be known. How about an archeology dig to prove or disprove this? The remains, if found could be reburied next to his parents a few miles up the road. Leave no stone unturned.

What if the child she had in captivity wasn't killed but left behind? According to the story, Jenny was carrying another baby at the beginning of her capture and it was killed on the path because they were on the run and she was falling behind. So she knew how hard it would be to escape with another child.  Come on folks get that DNA tested!!

I will be taking sections of the Jenny Wiley story and breaking it down using the primary documents and the research yet to be accomplished. So please bear with me.

The next post will be where the cabin was located. This will deal with land claims and grants of the Wiley family on the frontier. It's amazing how much the process for the Wiley's and other settlers on the frontier to claim land and get a deed had to do with land speculation, Indian treaties, the Indian wars, Proclamation of 1763 and the Revolutionary War. It took Henry Harman 45 years to get his land grants.

I believe I have real definite primary document proof the cabin was NOT on Walker's Creek but was in fact as some stories claim on Clear Fork Creek.  I welcome all the proof to say otherwise. If you have proof to refute anything in these posts...PLEASE for all the Jenny Wiley descendants and family, let's get it on here and tell her true story. You won't hurt my feelings a bit!

The time period in which Jenny Wiley lived was a pivotal time period in American history and definitely Appalachia.  The story of her capture was a true story and she was a very STRONG woman to have survived and still thrived on the frontier. I know through her real story we can get a better understanding of this time period in Appalachia, who she was, and the people connected to this story through the events in her life.
Click here for the post," Where was-cabin-of Thomas and Jenny Wiley"

For a overview of captives and the captivity narratives this YouTube video is a good overview.  The sound is really low though.